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Senate District 7 - Election Eve Roundup

by: mooncat

Mon Jun 08, 2009 at 14:28:33 PM CDT


Senate District 7The Alabama State Senate District 7 special election between Democrat Laura Hall and Republican Paul Sanford takes place tomorrow.  As usual, polls will be open from 7 am to 7 pm.  Vote early and as often as the law allows.

"Debate" tonight: 

Representative Laura Hall (D, HD19) and Paul Sanford (R) will participate in a televised "debate" this evening from 6:30 to 7 pm.  You can watch it live on WHNT-19 in the Huntsville area.  The Huntsville Times is a co-sponsor of the event.  We've been told the format includes 60 second, 30 second and 15 second responses from candidates, so don't get your hopes up for any substantive discussion.  Maybe they'll even have a lightning round with just a show of hands.  Remember how awful the WHNT/Hsv Times "debate" was back last summer for the AL-05 congressional seat?  I think they asked them their favorite color.

Anyway, the local Republican radio host has invited the LiA community to watch the debate and have a drink on him at Mason's downtown.

Friends of Laura Hall are also hosting a debate watch party at her campaign headquarters.  They'll have free food and drink and you can sign up to help on Election Day while you're there.

DATE: Monday, June 8th
TIME: 6:00pm   LOCATION: Laura Hall for Senate Campaign HQ
2227 Drake Ave., Huntsville, AL 35805 

Paul Sanford and the Issue of Education: 

Conservative bloggers have made much ado over Paul Sanford's issues page -- and the fact that Laura Hall's website does not have one.  So, I surfed on over to see where Sanford comes down on the issues.  Imagine my surprise to find that Sanford has a position on "illegal aliens" and on "the second amendment" but not on education.  OK, the first two don't actually surprise me -- he's a Republican so he has to push the immigrants and guns buttons -- but I'm genuinely surprised he hasn't articulated a position on education when so much of the state's budget is spent on education and there is widespread, bipartisan agreement that improving education is the ticket to economic success for Alabama and her citizens.

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The word "education" is only mentioned once on Sanford's issues page:

Future public education needs will demand the building of new schools and upgrading existing schools.

No word on where the money will come from.  Sanford advocates "finding every possible way to cut waste and inefficiency rather than raising taxes" which is well and good, as far as it goes.  Problem is, where is that waste and inefficiency and will cutting it get the new schools, infrastructure and "tax incentives and other perks" for new industry Sanford proposes?  At a UAH candidate forum in February, Sanford was asked about funding for higher education and how UAH could make ends meet if they face a budget cut.

        

I think, obviously I can speak -- I have a brother, a brother-in-law that's a professor at a university -- his workload is ... Gosh, I would die for.   I would actually die for.  I don't know if his workload is typical of the average professor in a university, but he teaches like 2 classes, he does a lot of it over the internet, he spends about 4 hours a week actually working in the classroom, combined, and about another 4 hours away from the classroom.  I mean it's a pretty sweetheart deal.  I don't know if that's the average professor's workload.  If it is, maybe I need to go back to school and become one ...

...

I think you have to look at the classroom size, how many students are in the classroom.  Are we effectively meeting the workload in the classroom level?  Can we consolidate classes and look at cutting expenses that way?

Do university professors really work too little?  Are our university class sizes too small?  Sounds like that's the way Paul Sanford sees things.

Here's a problematic statment I found on Sanford's issues page: 

Our tax structure must continue to be favorable to the citizens and businesses of Alabama. We have an eager, educated, and plentiful workforce that should be used to entice corporations to relocate to Alabama.

Sounds like he wants to continue selling Alabama the same old way:  Come to Alabama where we have low taxes and lots of cheap, non-union labor!  That might have worked when we were competing with Georgia and Tennessee, but foreign competitors like China and Central America have even lower taxes, more workers and fewer unions or none at all.  The old economic strategies won't be enough for Alabama in the 21st century. 

Laura Hall in her own words: 

I would also like to call your attention to my interview with Rep. Laura Hall earlier this year.  Part 1 is herePart 2 is here.   I specifically asked her about a constitutional convention and a ban on PAC to PAC transfers -- she supports both.  We also covered a lot more ground.  Here's an excerpt:

Q:  What's your greatest achievement since you've been down there?  You're a hard worker you say and you're proud of the work that you do.  What are you most proud of?

Rep. Hall:  There are several things but one of the bills that I'm most proud of that I've done is the Landlord-Tenant Bill which took a number of years.  Because there were different people at the table, from homebuilders to realtors to Alabama Arise and consistently looking at issues that have been brought to our attention.  The idea with the Landlord-Tenant Bill was to provide a safe place for individuals to live and also to require them to be responsible.  It was not just on the tenant but also on the landlord. That's one.  A safe haven for babies has been another one.  Increasing the funding for AIDS drug assistance program.  When I started we were getting about $150,000 and had a waiting list of more than 700 individuals and that no longer is the case.

Q:  Explain that one a little bit more.

Rep. Hall:  AIDS drug assistance program.  Those individuals who cannot afford drugs ...

Q:  And those are very expensive drugs?

Rep. Hall:  Yes.  So that fund is available.  Funds were allocated through Public Health It's a total of about $5 million now that is allocated to that particular line in the budget.  Without that we would have a waiting list of individuals needing drugs. If you know anything about the disease, one of the things that has improved the quality of life for individuals with AIDS is being able to take their medication and getting it at the right time.  So, for me, that is significant.

This video is from Part 1 of the interview, linked above.

        

GOP lowering expectations:

Alabama Republican Party Chairman Mike Hubbard was working hard to lower expectations in the District 7 Senate race:

Even though Republicans poured a lot of money into the campaigns of the opponents of Hall and Keahey, Hubbard said those Senate seats were never really targeted as winnable by the party.

Hubbard said the District 7 lines were originally "drawn to be Democratic." He said he would be "ecstatic" if Sanford wins, but conceded that the demographics of the district don't favor the GOP. He said nearly one-third of the voters in the district are black.

Anything close will be a moral victory and an actual win will mean the end of the Democratic Party in North Alabama.  That'll be the spin, anyhow.

 

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Sanford also mentioned gambling at the UAH forum (0.00 / 0)

Said he wasn't opposed to a lottery or gambling, which is a bit stronger than what he told the Times for that Sunday article -- "I support the voters' right to vote on bills of quality."

I think taxed and tightly regulated gambling is the reasonable position -- we're obviously not going to do away with it -- and I wonder why Sanford was so coy speaking to the reporter.



Work harder and work smarter!

Proration (0.00 / 0)

You failed to mention that one of Sanford's platform positions (one of the top three) is to push for prior year budgeting, which, based on an historical analysis, would decrease the probability of proration.  As I recall proration is not a good thing, so making it less likely is favorable.  Go ahead and throw stones.  One of the side effects of having positions on issues.

 "Come to Alabama where we have low taxes and lots of cheap, non-union labor!" That works a whole lot better than "Come to Alabama where we have high taxes and lots of expensive, union labor!



Come to Sweet Home Alabama (4.00 / 1)

Where we have low taxes but we have to pay sales tax on food.

Come to sweet home Alabama where we have the highest number of children living in poverty and without health insurance in the nation.

Come to sweet home Alabama where the quality of public education depends the income of the parents.

Come to sweet home Alabama where the majority of citizens don't have access to quality healthcare.

Come to sweet home Alabama where the voters care more about keeping their taxes low, hiring illegal immigrants so the rich can get richer, keeping women from having an abortion and gays from getting married then they do their welfare.

Come to Sweet Home Alabama, where the skies are blue and people are dumb enough to fall for the right wing Okey Doke.

Come on Down!



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Those qualities ... (0.00 / 0)
Are not attractive to the growth industries of the 21st century.  We need an educated workforce, modern infrastructure, accessible healthcare, and a tolerant social structure to be appealing to the next wave of industry.

Work harder and work smarter!

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Or go to China, where they have low taxes and lots of cheap labor (4.00 / 1)

Or note the words of Artur Davis, where "Come to Alabama, where we have low taxes and lots of cheap, non-union labor" is not going to work in the near future.  Guess what other place can say that...China.  China doesn't have unions.  They have cheap labor.  They attract manufacturing jobs. 

The question is not how can we maintain this 20th century mindset, but how can we put forth the infrastructure for creating jobs in the 21st century.



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The Peoples Republic... (4.00 / 1)

China is ONE BIG UNION.

Walmart (AKA Evil Empire)  tried to layoff and "relocate" managers, and the UNION told the Evil Empire you don't do anything without talking to us first..

http://blogs.wsj.com/chinajournal/2009/04/24/wal-mart-bows-to-union-pressure-on-china-restructuring/

Walmart became unionized when the Chinese government said "our workers have the right to be union, and we don't need no stinking ballot."  BAM! Walmart is unionized.

And the Evil Empire backed off. China will not permit the Evil Empire to turn their country into a Third World Nation, like the U.S. did.



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Can anyone figure out who is the brother-in-law that paul sanford is talking about? (4.00 / 1)
I would be curious if he would agree with what Sanford is saying. The college professors I know do NOT live that kind of life. I think he is just catering to the anti-"elite", anti-college  redneck conservative element that he will need to beat Hall. Does he not know that attracting the best college students is about REDUCING class size? Alabama is losing good college students to other states.

Showing no understanding for the work of professors (4.00 / 2)

His comments show no understanding of higher education and the work of professors.  Yes, professors do not have as structured a day due to the work that they might have.  Yes, as research universities, professors generally teach 2 classes a sememter.  However, that does not mean their day is over.  Teaching requires preparation, including reading, preping lecture notes, writing tests and assignemnts, and grading.  Not only that, professors have committee duties on campus.  Add to that the research expectations (Sanford needs to hear the phrase "publish or perish" for this job).  If Sanford cannot understand this, then how will he be able to understand the myriad of legislation (which he plans to read every word of).

 (Then again, regarding Sanford and education, one can bring up the school in Huntsville he is affiliated with...)



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also professors have to... (4.00 / 2)
manage the research and work of graduate students, write research proposals, apply for grants, attend conferences, write papers, present papers, publish papers, referee professional papers, serve on professional boards and committees, create and submit budgets, read professional journals and papers. Often the teaching load is the smallest part of a professor's job.

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Don't tease, csduke (0.00 / 0)
What is this school affiliation?  Don't tell me Paul Sanford is a part time teacher or something?  That would make his statement about "sweetheart deals" even worse.

Work harder and work smarter!

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Which HS did Paul Sanford graduate from? (0.00 / 0)
Just curious, anyone know?

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I'm not sure... (0.00 / 0)
...but his children attend Randolph.

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That's private, no? (0.00 / 0)
Well, I could wish someone last night had asked him if he was committed to supporting high quality public education for all?

Work harder and work smarter!

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Does Barack Obama? (0.00 / 0)
He sends his kids to private school.  Paul & his wife made the decision after a less than impressive experience at the public school.

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"Education" was definitely on Obama's "issues page" (0.00 / 0)

It isn't on Sanford's.  And Sanford also made an unflattering remark about the work ethic of college professors and proposed consolidating classes.  That leaves the door open to questioning his committment to high quality public education -- even without knowing his kids go to private school.

I heard that Paul Sanford did not have much luck with public schools either. 



Work harder and work smarter!

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If he had a less than stellar experience with his kids in public school (0.00 / 0)
then why isn't he campaiging about public school improvements? And if you believe any POTUS could send his young children to public school then you must be dreaming.

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Office hours, too (4.00 / 1)

When I was in school, all undergrads had faculty advisers, who had to sign off on your course registrations for each quarter.  So they were fully booked up during the week of pre-registration, and then again at registration at the beginning of the quarter.

My adviser also happened to be the assistant director of the aerospace engineering school, so in addition to the advising stuff and all the stuff csduke mentions, he was running around drumming up research programs and running the school while the director was away.

In the midst of all that, he was one of the most patient and genial faculty members I ever dealt with.



"The War in Iraq is not the disease. The War in Iraq is a symptom. Arrogance is the disease" - Bill Richardson

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And the only person I know who actually collapsed from exhaustion (0.00 / 0)

It was in one of my classes.  He was lecturing away (on fluid mechanics, I think) and suddenly put down his notebook, said "I'm sorry but I'm not feeling well" and walked out.  We sat in stunned silence for a minute then trooped up to the office and got the department secretary to call an ambulance for him.

Don't tell me professors don't work hard.  They work different from restaurant owners, but that doesn't make them slackers.



Work harder and work smarter!

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by the way (4.00 / 1)
I love in downtown HSV and got a robo call for GOTV for Hall tomorrow. Good!

I also LIVE in downtown HSV. (4.00 / 1)


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Glad to know you are doing both! (4.00 / 1)


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Laura Hall and health care (0.00 / 0)

This in today from a health care advocate/activist in Huntsville:

Great news!!  Laura Hall, candiate for AL Senate District 7, tells me she will be joining the State Legislators for Single Payer Health Care.  I believe Laura is the first Alabama legislator to promise her support.
 
If you live in Senate District 7, please be sure to vote for her tomorrow, Tues. June 9. The polls are open from 7 am to 7 pm.
 
...
 
Here's a link at HealthCare Now's website for more info on this campaign to get state legislators' support for single payer healthcare.  http://www.healthcare-now.org/campaigns/state-legislators/

 



Work harder and work smarter!

I just noticed this ... (4.00 / 1)
And had kind of an oh-crap moment, that it's now too late to do anything about.  Why is the Hall campaign tying up its workers on election eve with a debate watch party, when they could be doing GOTV activity?  It reminds me of the flack every campaign pro worth hiring gave the Kerry campaign for throwing a Springsteen concert in Cleveland the night before the general election - tying up several thousand young (and young at heart) volunteers who should have been knocking on doors and manning phone banks. I forget the exact number, but someone did back-of-envelope math on MSNBC or CNN (I know I wasn't watching Faux) and figured that if everyone at that concert had been out that night and gotten just three or four votes for Kerry, he would have won Ohio and the Presidency. Some campaign enthusiasts drove hours to and from Cleveland that night.  Obama's campaign repeated the concept - same artist, same city - but on Sunday night, which is generally not a great night for GOTV activity. And won Ohio.

Good point (0.00 / 0)
But they were still making some calls tonight.  I wonder who's idea it was to have the "debate" the night before the election?

Work harder and work smarter!

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Maybe (4.00 / 1)
... it's OK if they got some work in after the debate, which it sounds like they did.  And a party for a 30 minute debate leaves some time afterwards, unlike a long, snarled-traffic Boss jam.


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Question for PubliusIX (4.00 / 1)
Were you part of the Carter green line in NH in 80?

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